Some history between the Koya family and Kitsunes pretty much had to be a thing.
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Heh, almost always fireworks with Emi involved! Kinda want to see her challenge Yuki though, I think she can handle Emi but it would be neat to see what happens.
Tut, tut – the “T” word.
What is “Koya” or “koya princess” in this context? Widespread Asian use of “koya”, most often returning a translation as “older brother”. Confusing!
I think it might just be her last name?
Yeah, Emi’s last name is Koya. It’s been a while, but that is established. Also its known that she’s Japanese- so I’m not sure why Torb thinks her name would be Philippines.
I think this japanese kitsune has known this japanese family for some time and they reacted to her the same way in the past. (japanese royalty today are actually descendants of ancient shinto priests/priestesses and they were the ones who had to deal with kitsunes and other spirits in the past)
Also Emi is clearly not paying attention to what Yuki is trying to tell her, but i don’t think she actually wants to fight anyone.
Thanks The sentence structure threw me off memory lane so I didn’t make that association.
IIRC a search return “elder brother” in several areas, but also more local name.
When checking to see how you got that I only came across Kapampangan, which is Philippines. It’s possible it could mean that in something else, but I assumed most people remember that Emi is Japanese, and of course her family is heavily rooted in Japan. (If you dont want to read all this – skip to the ending paragraph!) Being a weeb- I know that Big Brother and Older Brother comes in many flavors, Onii-san (Onii-chan), Niisan, and Aniki. From what I understand, some of these terms change based on family relation (younger addressing older, sister to brother or brother to brother), closeness (Ani with ki added is seen as “vulgar” but i think it is roughly like calling your sibling ‘bro’), and formality (Onii-san being more respectful).
In Japanese, Koya has several translations, most commonly I see “shack” or “Small house” however, Japanese names have some oddities to them that I don’t know everything about them. I know that there are many “old names” that have changed meanings, and even some names that are said the same- but because they are written with different Kanji they have totally different meanings. So to break it down Ko can mean little, but there is another kanji used that is also pronounced Ko, and it is- a shorthand for happiness? It’s hard for me to explain it because- while I can see it online, I don’t have all the context. I don’t know if thats an old shorthand, if you should even call it shorthand, if its something “new” or something very old. All in all, it seems that to truly understand a Japanese name, you have to see how it is spelled, or have its origin explained. Otherwise you end up with the cliche in anime- where people make fun of someones name because it means X (which is something silly or lame) but the way it is spelled actually means Y – which is something cool and respectful. A relatively recent example of this is Izuku Midoriya, who is given the nickname “Deku” which generally means- wooden doll. As an insult it basically means, dumb, block head, something like that. Yet, it can also mean something like “the start of a story” based on the spelling. It can also be seen as a blank slate. So while most people see it as something like “block head” he is determined to see it as his new beginning, and or – that he is a blank slate, ready to be molded into the next great hero.
Japanese is complex, but- if you want to know where Koya came from for Emi- Emi’s name means Blessed/Beautiful. Her last name is a name that also translates to – A clever and quick witted leader. I have no idea what the Kanji looks like for either of that so if I dared to try- I might end up calling her “Reflect – Little animal pen” (not a joke- Koya can also mean animal pen- part of the Kanji used in Koya roughly means little even though its describing the building/pen size- it’s weird)
Thanks again, interesting! Searhing for “koya princess meaning” returns a Filipino connection and some princesses named “Koya” or close to that, while now looking closer I see “Koya” in Wikipedia in an article on its use as Indian surname and masculine Japanese given name.
Because you mention a translation of Koya as “shack” there is a funny coincidence that the Swedish roughly same sounding term “koja” means “simple house”. [Or – which I didn’t know – has been used for “cage” with precisely that etymology.] The etymology of “koja” is related to “koj” meaning “bunk” and comes from the Dutch “kooi” (“cage; bunk”) in turn related to Latin “cavea”. I dunno about the Japanese use, but the Indian use can well be related to the Indo-European. Though Kerala – the region that is associated with using “Koya” – has a dominating Malayalam language which is a Dravidian language related to Tamil and is an orphan language family. That is, there is no obvious relation to other existing languages such as Indo-European.
.. the Nippon i was taught (40 years ago) Koya means small building, but it also could mean ‘shrine’ (the shrine).. jus sayin..
Emi – Little? If you didn’t have those ears I’d be taller than you.
Yuki – I wasn’t referring to your height.
Emi – …
And that your honor, is how the fight started.
Heh!
I like their dynamic. They’ll be sure to get along like a house on fire over time. 😀
I will wait and see if Grandma Busty is being a wise Celestial or not.
Emi doesn’t really need a beat down. But she doesn’t really have a “Mirror” in her life. Someone who can be (safely) bratty right back, without being a borderline abusive authority figure.
Does Yuki know about Koya/Power conditioning methods? That may still be closely held and was only really discussed within the 5 Magi, and a bit with Team Null.
HOOOOOOOOOOO BOY- wait, other kitsune have boobage? 😉
It’s a very common Kitsune trait- doesn’t mean all of them though 😛
The real question that we all are missing is. Is this a cat fight or a canine fight? I am unsure
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Heh, almost always fireworks with Emi involved! Kinda want to see her challenge Yuki though, I think she can handle Emi but it would be neat to see what happens.
Tut, tut – the “T” word.
What is “Koya” or “koya princess” in this context? Widespread Asian use of “koya”, most often returning a translation as “older brother”. Confusing!
I think it might just be her last name?
Yeah, Emi’s last name is Koya. It’s been a while, but that is established. Also its known that she’s Japanese- so I’m not sure why Torb thinks her name would be Philippines.
I think this japanese kitsune has known this japanese family for some time and they reacted to her the same way in the past. (japanese royalty today are actually descendants of ancient shinto priests/priestesses and they were the ones who had to deal with kitsunes and other spirits in the past)
Also Emi is clearly not paying attention to what Yuki is trying to tell her, but i don’t think she actually wants to fight anyone.
Thanks The sentence structure threw me off memory lane so I didn’t make that association.
IIRC a search return “elder brother” in several areas, but also more local name.
When checking to see how you got that I only came across Kapampangan, which is Philippines. It’s possible it could mean that in something else, but I assumed most people remember that Emi is Japanese, and of course her family is heavily rooted in Japan. (If you dont want to read all this – skip to the ending paragraph!) Being a weeb- I know that Big Brother and Older Brother comes in many flavors, Onii-san (Onii-chan), Niisan, and Aniki. From what I understand, some of these terms change based on family relation (younger addressing older, sister to brother or brother to brother), closeness (Ani with ki added is seen as “vulgar” but i think it is roughly like calling your sibling ‘bro’), and formality (Onii-san being more respectful).
In Japanese, Koya has several translations, most commonly I see “shack” or “Small house” however, Japanese names have some oddities to them that I don’t know everything about them. I know that there are many “old names” that have changed meanings, and even some names that are said the same- but because they are written with different Kanji they have totally different meanings. So to break it down Ko can mean little, but there is another kanji used that is also pronounced Ko, and it is- a shorthand for happiness? It’s hard for me to explain it because- while I can see it online, I don’t have all the context. I don’t know if thats an old shorthand, if you should even call it shorthand, if its something “new” or something very old. All in all, it seems that to truly understand a Japanese name, you have to see how it is spelled, or have its origin explained. Otherwise you end up with the cliche in anime- where people make fun of someones name because it means X (which is something silly or lame) but the way it is spelled actually means Y – which is something cool and respectful. A relatively recent example of this is Izuku Midoriya, who is given the nickname “Deku” which generally means- wooden doll. As an insult it basically means, dumb, block head, something like that. Yet, it can also mean something like “the start of a story” based on the spelling. It can also be seen as a blank slate. So while most people see it as something like “block head” he is determined to see it as his new beginning, and or – that he is a blank slate, ready to be molded into the next great hero.
Japanese is complex, but- if you want to know where Koya came from for Emi- Emi’s name means Blessed/Beautiful. Her last name is a name that also translates to – A clever and quick witted leader. I have no idea what the Kanji looks like for either of that so if I dared to try- I might end up calling her “Reflect – Little animal pen” (not a joke- Koya can also mean animal pen- part of the Kanji used in Koya roughly means little even though its describing the building/pen size- it’s weird)
Thanks again, interesting! Searhing for “koya princess meaning” returns a Filipino connection and some princesses named “Koya” or close to that, while now looking closer I see “Koya” in Wikipedia in an article on its use as Indian surname and masculine Japanese given name.
Because you mention a translation of Koya as “shack” there is a funny coincidence that the Swedish roughly same sounding term “koja” means “simple house”. [Or – which I didn’t know – has been used for “cage” with precisely that etymology.] The etymology of “koja” is related to “koj” meaning “bunk” and comes from the Dutch “kooi” (“cage; bunk”) in turn related to Latin “cavea”. I dunno about the Japanese use, but the Indian use can well be related to the Indo-European. Though Kerala – the region that is associated with using “Koya” – has a dominating Malayalam language which is a Dravidian language related to Tamil and is an orphan language family. That is, there is no obvious relation to other existing languages such as Indo-European.
.. the Nippon i was taught (40 years ago) Koya means small building, but it also could mean ‘shrine’ (the shrine).. jus sayin..
Emi – Little? If you didn’t have those ears I’d be taller than you.
Yuki – I wasn’t referring to your height.
Emi – …
And that your honor, is how the fight started.
Heh!
I like their dynamic. They’ll be sure to get along like a house on fire over time. 😀
I will wait and see if Grandma Busty is being a wise Celestial or not.
Emi doesn’t really need a beat down. But she doesn’t really have a “Mirror” in her life. Someone who can be (safely) bratty right back, without being a borderline abusive authority figure.
Does Yuki know about Koya/Power conditioning methods? That may still be closely held and was only really discussed within the 5 Magi, and a bit with Team Null.
HOOOOOOOOOOO BOY- wait, other kitsune have boobage? 😉
It’s a very common Kitsune trait- doesn’t mean all of them though 😛
The real question that we all are missing is. Is this a cat fight or a canine fight? I am unsure
Emi should respect her elders.