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Damaged
Damaged
June 14th, 2021 6:19 AM

Hrmm, when such plans start to crumble, they usually crumble hard. I smell a TPK.

Sora2455
Sora2455
June 14th, 2021 6:52 AM

I’m guessing this is the various AI’s running this game pushing back against the metagaming.

Rock
Rock
June 14th, 2021 7:15 AM

Aren’t the undead immune to polymorphing spells? Or did 5e lift that limitation? 😉

Arcane Howitzer
Arcane Howitzer
June 14th, 2021 8:07 AM
Reply to  Rock

Looks more like she failed to penetrate its Spell Resistance.

All the planning in the world doesn’t help if you don’t roll high enough.

Damaged
Damaged
June 14th, 2021 8:09 AM
Reply to  Rock

In Pathfinder/d20, Polymorph was not an offensive spell, and could be automatically shrugged off by any hostile. In 5e, it is indeed usable on undead (and other things) offensively.

You are possibly thinking of Mind-Affecting spells, since in Pathfinder/d20 Undead auto-pass Will saves.

Leobardis
Leobardis
June 14th, 2021 10:35 AM
Reply to  Damaged

In Pathfinder, Polymorph *can* be used against hostiles and requires a will save to resist.

Undead don’t auto-pass will saves, though they are immune to Mind-Affecting spells, they auto-pass most Fort saves unless the spell also affects objects.

Paradox
Paradox
June 14th, 2021 1:18 PM
Reply to  Damaged

Not to mention that in 5E, most powerful entities have a thing called legendary resistance, where they can automatically turn a failed saving throw into a success a certain number of times a day

But I find it hard to believe that Phil wouldn’t account for something like that

hevensdragon
hevensdragon
June 14th, 2021 3:11 PM
Reply to  Damaged

Are they playing 5e, earlier it was pathfinder. Could it be baleful polymorph?

Rock
June 14th, 2021 4:06 PM
Reply to  hevensdragon

It’s 5e now, as evidenced by Alchemist Phil being able to cast spells, instead of using extracts.

Project_Demise
Project_Demise
June 14th, 2021 8:48 AM

Better whip out that Alchemist’s Bag. Between Holy Water and Alchemist Fire, that might be enough.

Guest
Guest
June 14th, 2021 10:34 AM

They haven’t burned through it’s Legendary Saves yet. 5E Polymorph gives a chance to resist, and a Dracolich is one of the creatures powerful enough to turn its first three failed saving throws a day into successes.

Jacob Barboza
Jacob Barboza
June 14th, 2021 12:57 PM

I’m thinking Phil isn’t stupid enough to have them explain to the enemy exactly what they are doing to beat it, and everything is a rouse for the real plan.

Merlin
June 14th, 2021 8:57 PM
Reply to  Jacob Barboza

Quite likely.

KentDA
June 14th, 2021 9:37 PM
Reply to  Jacob Barboza

Could also be a case of “Ah, but I’m not Left Handed!”

I could see Phil invoking that Trope.

DarkMyste
DarkMyste
June 15th, 2021 2:04 AM

No. it did work!

Certain bosses are immune to poly, yes, but that only includes its physical form, the dragon form is immune.
but,his powers are gone!
phill is right poly did its job it erased all hostile spell ability by locking out the undead dragon magic schools, i did this to a undead dragonkin spell caster back in wow during when you could kill a undead non flagged player with a healing spell,poly couldnt transform the dragonkin,but he could cast any spell till you broke silence part of spell

originaltych
originaltych
June 15th, 2021 2:50 AM
Reply to  DarkMyste

. . .wait so this was a set up for a silence spell cast that would immobilize the boss long enough to kill it?

DarkMyste
DarkMyste
June 17th, 2021 10:32 PM
Reply to  Sage

Sage wow used dnd rules back in the alpha and first release before you could cast poly instead rather then have to cast silence was mana hog back in the time poly is 3 spells in one and far cheaper and faster to cast even dnd

originaltych
originaltych
June 15th, 2021 2:44 AM

. . .sc*** you RNG?

shadowpyre93
June 15th, 2021 10:59 PM

Obviously they haven’t cheesed the most abusive feature of the game yet. Putting a bag of holding in a bag of holding

Doomedelf
Doomedelf
June 17th, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  shadowpyre93

That just dumps you in the astral plane. Barely even slow him down.

uaeoaeoeoi
June 18th, 2021 5:12 AM
Reply to  shadowpyre93

I thought it was putting a portable hole into a bag of holding?

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